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Yuuki Yuna Reviews MADA
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Yuuki Yuna Reviews Magic Arts Duel Academy!
Appearance 7/10
Staff and Usergroups 6/10
Content 1/10
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So why is MADA still alive after 2 years?
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Not at all, I definite this as strict. In fact, this is nothing close to what I see as professional. But it's okay for some places to be gung hoe about rules and others not to be. Just because one place isn't enforcing rules as much as the other, doesn't mean they can't both be professional.Yukio Okumura wrote:Yuuki Yuna wrote:Not really caring about the glow debate because that's Lux's fight to battle, are you implying that if any academy were to have a professional environment it would not be fun? If so, define Professional for me (or what you think professionalism is), I think we have different views on what that may be.Yukio Okumura wrote:as it is now this site is nothing but unprofessional and thats why it so fun to be on this site.
Being Professional is making sure you are always on top of the rules and enforcing them and making sure there are zero Loopholes. Being professional also means to have staff that do their duty to enforce the rules. Being Professional also means to have really active staff on a forum and not go inactive for more then a week.
Is this what you define as being professional cause it sure is how i define it.
Take for example the coding I used to write my post. If I see that other important posts like a tournament that was posted, or the announcement, or the rules, or anything really thats important and implied that I should read it that was posted by staff, it gives off a different vibe to it. It makes it feel important. Or if I start a phrase with "Hello Guest" (thats a code btw). Or say if someone was banned on another forum, and they were allowed to make an appeal for their ban, and after they did so, they get a formal response. If we were to look at the graphics on a place like CSA (an example of what bad graphics but professional ones look like), BRA (since you're familiar with that place), or even Resurrection DA (if you never heard of it, google it. It is a perfect example of what I am talking about when it comes to professionalism in general), they all look remotely similar.
If I see something that is formal or looks professional I can go ahead and say "Oh hey look, those people look like they know what they are doing." In a since, I think of professionalism as just being formal to someone. Now, there are some areas where MADA is professional and where it is not. One example of where it is for example the Ban Reports. While some of them are not handled as professionally as others, the fact that they are doing them and that they have a formula for them makes them look professional. The userbar that you are wearing is professional, because if someone were to ask me to make another userbar for them, it would look similar to yours in many ways. However, using the ban reports are professional, how some to go about handling them aren't professional (one case I am just going to mention is Lelouch's Ban Report) where the person writing the report just sorta assumes things. (Also if you're wondering a ban report I see as professional, look at #nofilter's Ban Report). This is what I see as professionalism.
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Thought of dropping by since you folks are including DA in your discussion. I also did went through all comments to ensure I'm not missing any valid gestures.
I think MADA is doing fine without needing to copy what we do at DA. Those who tend to copy what we do, well, you see them dead a while after. If something works for someone it won't necessarily works for you. There are set of different factors and circumstantial environment for a certain event or change to to be a positive step forward.
It might be better off doing MADA things instead of DA things.
~Cheers
I think MADA is doing fine without needing to copy what we do at DA. Those who tend to copy what we do, well, you see them dead a while after. If something works for someone it won't necessarily works for you. There are set of different factors and circumstantial environment for a certain event or change to to be a positive step forward.
It might be better off doing MADA things instead of DA things.
~Cheers
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I think that's a fair statement. Though, I kind of think Yuuki may have intended "emulation" rather than copying, since I find emulating others is a safer approach.
That being said, I think there are a lot of things MADA can do to improve itself and be an even better, more fun forum to hang out on. I've had high hopes for that since I joined, and those hopes still linger.
That being said, I think there are a lot of things MADA can do to improve itself and be an even better, more fun forum to hang out on. I've had high hopes for that since I joined, and those hopes still linger.
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Oh hi Anzo, nice seeing you here. And with some parts of what you are saying I have to agree: copying DA is a bad idea. But by making an academy, you are copying DA. So you are basically saying "by copying DA, you're academy will die eventually." Though besides that, I do agree with the majority of what you said.
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Technically speaking, DA copied the DA from the GX show.
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Now, now wonderful people, I know you haven't posted here for a while but I guess I needed to say something to not get behind bote and Lux
I'm Pep, ex-admin of GDA and YGA, co-owner of some dead ass academys, professional spammer and event organizer.
What you are mising is fun and interactive events. Your community will be active for only so long, untill it fades because they found something more interesting, or just got wooped by life in a different direction. Whatever it is, academys are are on near-extinction. 2 years is a good amount and all, but it wouldn't hurt to try and make it 3, maybe even 4? This of course can be made with work and dedication, not only chill and fun time. Yu-Gi-Oh is far from dead, just because DN got shut down. DA was singing the same song, until me and a couple other people decided to get back to the roots of these forums existence, which is - deuling. When people start dueling and all that, you will need to make more tournaments. A good ration is around 2-3 torunaments a month and one big event (Something like mafia or maybe a role-play or something along these lines) that will be run though the whole month. While I did get into an argument with another member on this site, saying you have tryed everything I suggested then and now (which i do not doubt), I don't think you did it with the right mind set. A good point that bote made was that you are still alive because you are a very loyal community that are very close and enjoy each other's company. While this is great, it is not something that new members could enjoy. I for myself was coming here every day for some time, but stoped because A) I didn't felt "welcome" to this fanily and B) Because there is nothing to really keep me in here. While you may not have any ambitions to try and compete with DA, it is still highly unprofessional to leave your members leave like that. Those are the 2 main problems I see in the academy as a person with experience and that is relatively subjective Don't take this as an insult to how you operate the forum, but more so as a constructive criticism.
While some parts do look messy, I won't touch on them since they were already said beforehand. Many of the things are not something that will make the quality of the forum drop. Just for a silly reference NA had some of the worst coding (keep in mind I have very average knowledge on coding) and were still one of the best academys (on paper only if you ask me lel) One thing tho. Don't remove glows. Just cuz of the extra 1-2 seconds...it isn't worth it imo. It's something that DA didn't have and It's something that makes you unique in a sence. Keep the unique things in and try and make them as much as posible, since you will only benefit from that.
If this post has zero sence, don't judge, it's 4:30 in the morning lmao.
I'm Pep, ex-admin of GDA and YGA, co-owner of some dead ass academys, professional spammer and event organizer.
What you are mising is fun and interactive events. Your community will be active for only so long, untill it fades because they found something more interesting, or just got wooped by life in a different direction. Whatever it is, academys are are on near-extinction. 2 years is a good amount and all, but it wouldn't hurt to try and make it 3, maybe even 4? This of course can be made with work and dedication, not only chill and fun time. Yu-Gi-Oh is far from dead, just because DN got shut down. DA was singing the same song, until me and a couple other people decided to get back to the roots of these forums existence, which is - deuling. When people start dueling and all that, you will need to make more tournaments. A good ration is around 2-3 torunaments a month and one big event (Something like mafia or maybe a role-play or something along these lines) that will be run though the whole month. While I did get into an argument with another member on this site, saying you have tryed everything I suggested then and now (which i do not doubt), I don't think you did it with the right mind set. A good point that bote made was that you are still alive because you are a very loyal community that are very close and enjoy each other's company. While this is great, it is not something that new members could enjoy. I for myself was coming here every day for some time, but stoped because A) I didn't felt "welcome" to this fanily and B) Because there is nothing to really keep me in here. While you may not have any ambitions to try and compete with DA, it is still highly unprofessional to leave your members leave like that. Those are the 2 main problems I see in the academy as a person with experience and that is relatively subjective Don't take this as an insult to how you operate the forum, but more so as a constructive criticism.
While some parts do look messy, I won't touch on them since they were already said beforehand. Many of the things are not something that will make the quality of the forum drop. Just for a silly reference NA had some of the worst coding (keep in mind I have very average knowledge on coding) and were still one of the best academys (on paper only if you ask me lel) One thing tho. Don't remove glows. Just cuz of the extra 1-2 seconds...it isn't worth it imo. It's something that DA didn't have and It's something that makes you unique in a sence. Keep the unique things in and try and make them as much as posible, since you will only benefit from that.
If this post has zero sence, don't judge, it's 4:30 in the morning lmao.
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Hmm... I seriously liked this one, was needing to read something like this. Also, would like to see that whole essay about the mods.
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Pepchoninga wrote:
I'm Pep, ex-admin of GDA and YGA, co-owner of some dead ass academys, professional spammer and event organizer.
This bit was enough for me to stop reading any further.
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Judging by how some of the community responded towards this, that's sadly not going to happen. Should I write it? Probably though, cause a lot of people don't understand what good modding looks like. Judging by Artic's response, he thinks professionalism is mods being strict. So yeah...Craig Tucker wrote:Hmm... I seriously liked this one, was needing to read something like this. Also, would like to see that whole essay about the mods.
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Oracle wrote:Pepchoninga wrote:
I'm Pep, ex-admin of GDA and YGA, co-owner of some dead ass academys, professional spammer and event organizer.
This bit was enough for me to stop reading any further.
That was for the banter tbh
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I'm not responsible for Peppy's actions, as he is an idiot, and may bury himself in a grave like he is already doing. And I don't plan to dig him out, love you peppy <3Pepchoninga wrote:Oracle wrote:Pepchoninga wrote:
I'm Pep, ex-admin of GDA and YGA, co-owner of some dead ass academys, professional spammer and event organizer.
This bit was enough for me to stop reading any further.
That was for the banter tbh
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a27theDemonKnight wrote:Now if everyone could stop flooding the thread with useless posts that do not serve any progressive input
And post your opinionated progress inputs instead of getting in each others way
That would be great.
Can you fools NOT start flaming or fiting shots at each other please?
I am angered by this.
Anyone who gets in the way of data collection will feel my judgement.
This thread.
Thee will be no locks. Yet.
Any future posts I deem unworthy will be eliminated without notice.
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The reason why I haven't written my essay about Mods isn't that the community won't respond to it well, but rather they just aren't ready for it, and the fact that some people like Shadow or Artic who have run academies (and don't do a good job at it either, shots), responded the way they did proves this to me. In order for anyone to understand a topic like that, the audience they are writing too must understand that just because you are strict when it comes to rules doesn't mean fun isn't allowed. If people understand that mods and admins can enforce rules strictly AND allow a community to have fun, then maybe people can accept an essay about mods. Because people think if the staff were Nazi strict, then there would be no fun (and I'm not advocating Nazi strict). And you don't have to be Nazi strict to be a mod that enforces rules. So until I start to see that my audience can understand that, I'll write it eventually.
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And honestly the problem extends to other staff positions as well. The only staff that do anything of any kind are the 3 admins and occasional chatbox protection from Xav, Patchouli Knowledgefor those who don't know who I am talking about, otherwise none of them really do anything, this goes to all three positions that aren't admin, though the War Commander spot seems non-existent anyway since the only one I ever saw on was Torm before he left.
This could be for various reasons in general, laziness, no incentive to do anything that their positions says they do, someone else (one of the admins most likely), or don't see the point after getting bad replies to something they did.
But I also don't completely blame it on the people with the positions. In the case of the mods a lot of it can be contributed to the fact that they, for the most part, haven't been needed to actually do anything on the forums all that much and mostly only the chatbox and even then that has varying times when they have anything to do in regards to their position on it. Or in the case of professors, the current state of online Yugioh isn't doing anything to help that, along with the current activity of the forums.
I think the biggest problem is that the majority of the activity lies in the chatbox and not on the forums. For the most part the forums are kinda barren and it can be hard to get replies from people in them. I mean I'm having a hard time to get anyone to post something more meaningful about my deck as all of the replies, while I appreciate them though there aren't many of them to begin with, lack the substance I want from them.
But I'm also not exactly helping in the regard. I don't really reply to alot of topics and stuff in forums unless it is something that interests me and/or I feel like I can me a good reply to nowadays. There was a time I would post a lot in a forum and rack-up a good post count and ect... and sometime it even got me in trouble for spam but that was a good long while ago, this was also when I use to be a part of DA hell I may even still be on the top poster list for that site for all I know as I had racked up a lot of posts there. That's just how I am, but if more things were posted that catch my interest I would probably post more on the forum, or I could try creating topics myself but I don't really see the incentive with the current forum activity unfortunately.
Just my overall thoughts on the matter.
This could be for various reasons in general, laziness, no incentive to do anything that their positions says they do, someone else (one of the admins most likely), or don't see the point after getting bad replies to something they did.
But I also don't completely blame it on the people with the positions. In the case of the mods a lot of it can be contributed to the fact that they, for the most part, haven't been needed to actually do anything on the forums all that much and mostly only the chatbox and even then that has varying times when they have anything to do in regards to their position on it. Or in the case of professors, the current state of online Yugioh isn't doing anything to help that, along with the current activity of the forums.
I think the biggest problem is that the majority of the activity lies in the chatbox and not on the forums. For the most part the forums are kinda barren and it can be hard to get replies from people in them. I mean I'm having a hard time to get anyone to post something more meaningful about my deck as all of the replies, while I appreciate them though there aren't many of them to begin with, lack the substance I want from them.
But I'm also not exactly helping in the regard. I don't really reply to alot of topics and stuff in forums unless it is something that interests me and/or I feel like I can me a good reply to nowadays. There was a time I would post a lot in a forum and rack-up a good post count and ect... and sometime it even got me in trouble for spam but that was a good long while ago, this was also when I use to be a part of DA hell I may even still be on the top poster list for that site for all I know as I had racked up a lot of posts there. That's just how I am, but if more things were posted that catch my interest I would probably post more on the forum, or I could try creating topics myself but I don't really see the incentive with the current forum activity unfortunately.
Just my overall thoughts on the matter.
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Yuuki Yuna wrote:(and don't do a good job at it either, shots)
You really are trying to say that i haven't run a successful place? Well i have run a place that was successful which was my first academy it was running smoothly for 3 days until someone took it down. not gonna name who but you get the gist from that point on i decided to just be a staff member at academies which in fact were successful. (Like for example Volcanic Duel Academy, Red-eyes Duel Academy, Gishki Duel Academy, Interest industries(Gishki 2.0) Banished Academy(Volcanic 2.0)
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Successful? In the short term, sure, but in the long term: no. Short Term Success = Knowing people to temporary keep your forum alive. Short Term Success =/ High Quality.Yukio Okumura wrote:Yuuki Yuna wrote:(and don't do a good job at it either, shots)
You really are trying to say that i haven't run a successful place? Well i have run a place that was successful which was my first academy it was running smoothly for 3 days until someone took it down. not gonna name who but you get the gist from that point on i decided to just be a staff member at academies which in fact were successful. (Like for example Volcanic Duel Academy, Red-eyes Duel Academy, Gishki Duel Academy, Interest industries(Gishki 2.0) Banished Academy(Volcanic 2.0)
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Yuuki Yuna wrote:Successful? In the short term, sure, but in the long term: no. Short Term Success = Knowing people to temporary keep your forum alive. Short Term Success =/ High Quality.Yukio Okumura wrote:Yuuki Yuna wrote:(and don't do a good job at it either, shots)
You really are trying to say that i haven't run a successful place? Well i have run a place that was successful which was my first academy it was running smoothly for 3 days until someone took it down. not gonna name who but you get the gist from that point on i decided to just be a staff member at academies which in fact were successful. (Like for example Volcanic Duel Academy, Red-eyes Duel Academy, Gishki Duel Academy, Interest industries(Gishki 2.0) Banished Academy(Volcanic 2.0)
Your statement is nothing but false. I had people recruiting for my first academy out the fucking ass in the 3 day span i had over 50 Members registered on the site and you want to tell me that it was just me knowing people that allowed my forum to be alive for a short amount of time? Don't even give me that fucking bullshit. A little Prick Named Neko or thundermaw is the one that took it fucking down and do you want to know how? A friend of mine and Legions named Mar gave him the pass and name to his account to neko because i was the one who got "Legion banned from solaire" which resulted in me getting banned from the site as well.
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InB4 I care much less now anyways. Solaire is dead and few places are left. I will look to the future. I believe this topic has become rather debatable to keep open. At the moment here is what I see shots firing in both directions that are not constructive and do not fit why this topic was made in the first place. Right now from what I have been observing, this topic while meant to be good and helpful has become a hotspot for irrelevant and degrading activities. (IE-A couple things above.) Amazing to me how civilized conversation can never stay that way.
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a27theDemonKnight wrote:Now if everyone could stop flooding the thread with useless posts that do not serve any progressive input
And post your opinionated progress inputs instead of getting in each others way
That would be great.
Can you fools NOT start flaming or firing shots at each other please?
I am angered by this.
Anyone who gets in the way of data collection will feel my judgement.
This thread.
There will be no locks. Yet.
Any future posts in this thread I deem unworthy will be eliminated without notice.
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Legionheart wrote:InB4 I care much less now anyways. Solaire is dead and few places are left. I will look to the future. I believe this topic has become rather debatable to keep open. At the moment here is what I see shots firing in both directions that are not constructive and do not fit why this topic was made in the first place. Right now from what I have been observing, this topic while meant to be good and helpful has become a hotspot for irrelevant and degrading activities. (IE-A couple things above.) Amazing to me how civilized conversation can never stay that way.
It was destinied to be like that, a topic such as this one was never gonna stay civilized, unfortunately. Things like these should be sent via PM, in my opinion, not be discussed in public.
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I might be a little late to this topic. But I wanted to give my own criticism.
Of a lot of academies that I've been on, MADA is one of the best I've seen in terms of admins. A lot that I've been on have that stereotypical power hungry admins that try to intimidate others but in MADA, all 3 of the admins are very understanding and down to Earth.
As far as mods go, Patchouli follows more of the power hungry user archetype. Instead of the understanding, he is prone to suggest punishment rather quickly before getting to understand the whole situation. This is only based from what I've seen, I might be mistaken. Jackachu is very down to Earth and relaxed but doesn't really do much. At first I thought these were the only 2 mods only to discover recently that there is a third mod known as Craig. Solely based from what I've seen when I have been, he doesn't do much either and tends to be absent. I might be mistaken, please correct me if I'm wrong about certain details.
As Mimgram said most of the activity happens in the chat. To me I don't think that's a bad thing just as long as the forums are accommodated to regularly. I was informed that the drop in posts more or less coincided because of DN being taken down. Which is understandable since, besides Pokemon tournaments, there are not a lot of events going on, I'm sure there was much more events when DN was on, I'm taking a guess since I wasn't on MADA when DN was up.
That being said, I love this place a lot. I've met a lot of fun people and I hope this forum continues for a long time. I'll do my best as a user to be active in chat and on the forums.
Of a lot of academies that I've been on, MADA is one of the best I've seen in terms of admins. A lot that I've been on have that stereotypical power hungry admins that try to intimidate others but in MADA, all 3 of the admins are very understanding and down to Earth.
As far as mods go, Patchouli follows more of the power hungry user archetype. Instead of the understanding, he is prone to suggest punishment rather quickly before getting to understand the whole situation. This is only based from what I've seen, I might be mistaken. Jackachu is very down to Earth and relaxed but doesn't really do much. At first I thought these were the only 2 mods only to discover recently that there is a third mod known as Craig. Solely based from what I've seen when I have been, he doesn't do much either and tends to be absent. I might be mistaken, please correct me if I'm wrong about certain details.
As Mimgram said most of the activity happens in the chat. To me I don't think that's a bad thing just as long as the forums are accommodated to regularly. I was informed that the drop in posts more or less coincided because of DN being taken down. Which is understandable since, besides Pokemon tournaments, there are not a lot of events going on, I'm sure there was much more events when DN was on, I'm taking a guess since I wasn't on MADA when DN was up.
That being said, I love this place a lot. I've met a lot of fun people and I hope this forum continues for a long time. I'll do my best as a user to be active in chat and on the forums.
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I disagree with your reasoning. Power is meant to be used, not worn. And just by looking at ban reports, excluding the admins, he is the only mod that has filled out a ban report as of recently. Being powerhungry just means you want more power/authority, and what you're saying doesn't qualify someone for being powerhungry. Yet again, I haven't seen enough of the mods do mod things to be able to judge myself.Flare wrote:As far as mods go, Patchouli follows more of the power hungry user archetype. Instead of the understanding, he is prone to suggest punishment rather quickly before getting to understand the whole situation.
What you are trying to describe is being corrupt, and to me, there is two forms of corruption: Using your power all of the time, and not using your power at all. The first most people are able to recognize as being corrupt. If you're banning people left and right for no reason, then that's being corrupt. I don't need to explain that. However, the 2nd one I'd say you would see in the moreso powerhungry type. If someone honestly doesn't know how to moderate a chat, then it's the admin's responsibility to teach them. But even if they do or don't know how to moderate, if someone is breaking the rules, and that mod does nothing to the person breaking rules, then would you think they are a good moderator? Of course not, and I'd argue that they are corrupt, because if that one mod didn't do anything to the first person breaking rules, then they wouldn't do anything if another person started to break rules (unless they learned). In which case, it just starts chaos.
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shit, then most likely you saw mine, or you're looking at it after reading this post e,eYuuki Yuna wrote: And just by looking at ban reports.
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LOL Do you think I care? No.Earth Guardian (Zolfo) wrote:shit, then most likely you saw mine, or you're looking at it after reading this post e,eYuuki Yuna wrote: And just by looking at ban reports.
Also, to sum up mods in one sentence: Most are idiots who don't know what they are or should be doing
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