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Yuuki Yuna Reviews MADA
Yuuki Yuna Reviews Magic Arts Duel Academy!
Appearance 7/10
Staff and Usergroups 6/10
Content 1/10
Everything Else
So why is MADA still alive after 2 years?
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Nice, in fact not a bad review. I agree with most of it. Understanding this place is long standing and as a community alot has happened. I hope it doesn't seem unwelcoming. Most people tend to misjudge it for that. MADA is a family of sorts by signing up you become part of it. I try to drag people into conversations a lot, including new members, however its hard when they do not want to respond, at that point I tend to move about my own business. Quite understood however, I believe its the way the community wants it. The dorms are not really so much dorms as they are a selection of groups that a user can choose from. The discord just came back up, its simply an option but most don't use it. Loading of the chatbox on the index doesn't really make the scripts load slow, excessive glows do though, that I can agree with. As much as glows are fun perhaps limiting them to staff would not be such a bad idea. As MADA has a lot of content to hold and the site is not paid for at the moment to hold so much information. You have to understand that from the point of DN's fall MADA is more of a gaming forum. Pokemon Stuff etc. MADA's name is well known and very well indexed in google. It has stayed up this long because of its members and dedicated staff team and advocates. As of now my own personal thing, I feel the professor and war commander ranks are considered "dead positions." I understand where you are coming from with the its an academy thing, times are hard, yugioh within academies is all but dead its not like how popular it was 3-9 years ago. The first couple months DA opened its doors and the flood of places that followed afterwards. So this is the way it has been adapting. Any admin can correct me if I am wrong on anything I am saying. I am quite certain this is the truth, among more personal reasons that I will not mention in this post. Again, I do want to acknowledge that you did a good job on the review and it is not easy to say everything you said in front of a large group of people. I do not want to discredit your words as what I have said is simply a response with agreement and some informative information.
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But that doesn't mean that's a good thing. This was the same case with Satellar DA/AKA, and what happened with that is it moved onto a Skype chat. When everyone moves onto a Skype chat, what's the reason to use the forum chat?Legionheart wrote:Understanding this place is long standing and as a community alot has happened. I hope it doesn't seem unwelcoming. Most people tend to misjudge it for that. MADA is a family of sorts by signing up you become part of it. I try to drag people into conversations a lot, including new members, however its hard when they do not want to respond, at that point I tend to move about my own business. Quite understood however, I believe its the way the community wants it.
My point still stands that they can do something with this selection of groups. It doesn't matter what they are, dorms, houses, groups, you can still make an on-going event that abuses this and makes people care about this while give your members something to do.Legionheart wrote:The dorms are not really so much dorms as they are a selection of groups that a user can choose from.
When everyone uses it, it becomes a problem. So the way I see it, I would want to prevent a problem to exist, but that's just me. For example, DA does mafia games, but the head admin, Anzo, said that he doesn't want an outside source being used for mafia games. It makes sense because he's trying to keep activity on his forum.Legionheart wrote:The discord just came back up, its simply an option but most don't use it.
I actually haven't thought about the fact you can pay to have the site hold more information. I completely forgot this was a thing to be honest XD.Legionheart wrote:As much as glows are fun perhaps limiting them to staff would not be such a bad idea. As MADA has a lot of content to hold and the site is not paid for at the moment to hold so much information.
Then I think it should be structured as such. Turning the academy idea into something that works for a game like Pokemon could be quite interesting.Legionheart wrote:You have to understand that from the point of DN's fall MADA is more of a gaming forum. Pokemon Stuff etc. MADA's name is well known and very well indexed in google. It has stayed up this long because of its members and dedicated staff team and advocates.
You're absolutely right, but I'm sorta greedy, let me explain how. I am greedy in that I will do anything reasonable to want to be able to see that there is an academy that can compare to DA. And rival it. And that is going to be hard to do. DA just recently added forums for other games, and they've been doing mostly YGO for since they opened their doors I believe. I remember when Resurrection DA was very popular, and that fell because the staff got lazy. If they didn't, they could have probably kept it alive for a long time, maybe even up to today.Legionheart wrote:As of now my own personal thing, I feel the professor and war commander ranks are considered "dead positions." I understand where you are coming from with the its an academy thing, times are hard, yugioh within academies is all but dead its not like how popular it was 3-9 years ago. The first couple months DA opened its doors and the flood of places that followed afterwards. So this is the way it has been adapting. Any admin can correct me if I am wrong on anything I am saying. I am quite certain this is the truth, among more personal reasons that I will not mention in this post. Again, I do want to acknowledge that you did a good job on the review and it is not easy to say everything you said in front of a large group of people. I do not want to discredit your words as what I have said is simply a response with agreement and some informative information.
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"But that doesn't mean that's a good thing. This was the same case with Satellar DA/AKA, and what happened with that is it moved onto a Skype chat. When everyone moves onto a Skype chat, what's the reason to use the forum chat?"
the forum chat doesn't have voice I guess, though to be honest I see it more for voice than for typing. While I see what your saying, here is the thing, because something does not work for one place doesn't mean it would not work for someplace else. Also, please don't compare to DA as it was the first academy clearly they are doing something right or Anzo's predecessors were. But MADA is has almost always held 2nd under DA on the ranking list. Comparing to how DA does their stuff, why should MADA copy and imitate something its not. I don't think your going to get yugioh rival here as many people don't play the game much anymore. And now class time...
-Legionheart
the forum chat doesn't have voice I guess, though to be honest I see it more for voice than for typing. While I see what your saying, here is the thing, because something does not work for one place doesn't mean it would not work for someplace else. Also, please don't compare to DA as it was the first academy clearly they are doing something right or Anzo's predecessors were. But MADA is has almost always held 2nd under DA on the ranking list. Comparing to how DA does their stuff, why should MADA copy and imitate something its not. I don't think your going to get yugioh rival here as many people don't play the game much anymore. And now class time...
-Legionheart
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Legionheart wrote: Also, please don't compare to DA as it was the first academy clearly they are doing something right or Anzo's predecessors were. But MADA is has almost always held 2nd under DA on the ranking list. Comparing to how DA does their stuff, why should MADA copy and imitate something its not. I don't think your going to get yugioh rival here as many people don't play the game much anymore.
I agree with legion on this one. Like why have the need to Imitate something that MADA is not? MADA is one of the most unique Duel Academies to ever come into existence and the way they have evolved makes this place the best damn forum to ever chill and relax on. This Place Has been 2nd To DA for a while now so I guess the staff have been doing the right thing for it to stay that way for so long.
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Events take a constant upkeep, as well as incentives to keep people interested. Usually that's MC, but as you may not know...MC has very little meaning and use here. There isn't much point behind it, and with no point in the main incentive, no one cares enough to keep events alive.
This is also the issue with Lottery and Dice games. You win....currency. and then what?
This forum was founded as a Yugioh fansite, and likely will remain so. Including other games in discussion and topics is one thing but trying to revamp an entire forum so it no longer focuses primarily on its original purpose? Sorry but no.
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This is also the issue with Lottery and Dice games. You win....currency. and then what?
This forum was founded as a Yugioh fansite, and likely will remain so. Including other games in discussion and topics is one thing but trying to revamp an entire forum so it no longer focuses primarily on its original purpose? Sorry but no.
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I'm not saying imitate, I am saying take what they are doing and apply it. If it were imitation, I would be saying "testing is wrong because DA doesn't do it" or "your current dorm system is wrong because DA doesn't do it" and look at very small things that DA does that everyone should do. For example, I was going about saying "do this because DA does it," I would saying that MADA (or another academy name here for example) should run a ladder. Another example could be that DA locked their shop thread and people make an additional topic for buying an item. But I cannot see what justifiable reason other academies should do that other then being sneaky and increasing their topic score on forumotion's directory.Yukio Okumura wrote:Legionheart wrote: Also, please don't compare to DA as it was the first academy clearly they are doing something right or Anzo's predecessors were. But MADA is has almost always held 2nd under DA on the ranking list. Comparing to how DA does their stuff, why should MADA copy and imitate something its not. I don't think your going to get yugioh rival here as many people don't play the game much anymore.
I agree with legion on this one. Like why have the need to Imitate something that MADA is not? MADA is one of the most unique Duel Academies to ever come into existence and the way they have evolved makes this place the best damn forum to ever chill and relax on. This Place Has been 2nd To DA for a while now so I guess the staff have been doing the right thing for it to stay that way for so long.
But in reality, that is just one approach to a rank-up system, others have created testing, and that can work just as well. But I'm not, I am only use it as a model, and then filling in the blanks from there, because if someone is doing something that is working, and others are doing things that are not working and thus their forums is dieing, then they can learn something from someone who is doing things right. For example, let me analyze something that DA does that other academies don't: temporary shop items.
Some items on DA's shop are permanent (things like name changes), while others are temporary (shops, ranks) lasting from 1 month or 3 months. Why would they do this? They want to encourage people to duel. Not to mention if you look back in American History itself, one of the factors that led into the Great Depression was company making things that were meant to be permanent. For example, when you buy an Iphone and you crack the screen. Apple knew you were going to do that eventually. Eventually you will have to buy a new Iphone, because those things are not made to last. It's a tactic Apple does to make money. So DA has items that are temporary on their catalog because it is a common business tactic, in which case they are trying to convince their members to duel more often.
This is what I do: I look at DA and see things that they are doing and thinking "Why are they doing that?" Another example of a person who does this is Yandere Dev, the person creating a game known as Yandere Simulator. What he is doing is looking at stealth games like Hitman and seeing what he can take from that series of games, and seeing what he could use from the Hitman series and apply it to his own game.
You can see above when it my shop idea. You could also try raising prices. And hey, if the admins want to revamp the whole forum, it is in their place to do so. I don't think any forum I know of even has dice games as it's main focus on forumotion at least.Oracle wrote:Events take a constant upkeep, as well as incentives to keep people interested. Usually that's MC, but as you may not know...MC has very little meaning and use here. There isn't much point behind it, and with no point in the main incentive, no one cares enough to keep events alive.
This is also the issue with Lottery and Dice games. You win....currency. and then what?
This forum was founded as a Yugioh fansite, and likely will remain so. Including other games in discussion and topics is one thing but trying to revamp an entire forum so it no longer focuses primarily on its original purpose? Sorry but no.)
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And hey, if the admins want to revamp the whole forum, it is in their place to do so.
And they'd lose more than half the active members if they did so.
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Exactly, so right now, I think it should stay a YGO forum with other forums covering topics like Pokemon.Oracle wrote:Yuuki Yuna wrote:
And hey, if the admins want to revamp the whole forum, it is in their place to do so.
And they'd lose more than half the active members if they did so.
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There are some that have focus on gaming that use the dice rolls to provide events. Some even run 12 different dice used for 12+ games
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A. I'm not going to get staff after walking into a place so quickly. Stardog and the other admins should know this. Plus, I had an IP ban that was recently removed, and for getting that IP ban removed, I gave Stardog coding for profile songs + did a new head banner for him (which he says he will post a poll for eventually).!~Rabbit~! wrote:What an awfully longwinded way of saying "Lol give me staff here pls."
B. I actually don't care if I get staff or not. Quite frankly, if it happens, it happens.
C. I don't blame you for thinking that.
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Well, wassup people.
Sorry, bote, but I haven't read whole of your review because:
1.) Too lazy to do so
2.) Don't have time to do so
However, I've read all the replies. Well, first, I'll try to let you know what I do not like on MADA.
Before I start, though, for those who do not know me (probably nobody knows me here), I am Lux, and I was Administrator at Gladiator Duel Academy for almost all of it's time (I was the Head Admin last few months too) and I was an Assistant on the Duel Academy for like 7-8 months.
The first thing that I don't like is...that chatbox. I just really dislike the version with avatars in it, and I'm pretty sure that option can be removed in the Administrator Panel. I like avatars, I consider them to be something unique for every member, but it looks somewhat "messy" to me. But really, if I am the only one who actually dislikes that, then keep it as it is.
What I see is that bote compares you a lot to DA. And that's a reasonable comparasion because DA is the biggest, the best and the largest Yugioh Academy up to date. Just by creating an academy you are basically copying DA. But, of course, there can be many cheeks things that DA doesn't have.
What I would love to see changed is user's profile field. It looks messy so if you could "clean that up" it would look a lot better. Plus it'd be nice if you find some cheeky rank images, just for the forum look.
And I agree with Bote about a lot of banners, the more you have them, the longer is forum's loading time. So a head banner + maybe a banners for a dorms would be just enough.
One more thing, get rid of the glows. They are nice but the forum would look better without it.
Now, don't get me wrong, please. You've been cruising apart for 2 long years as I have heard (well, of course you are 2nd in forumotion as of now because every other academy besides MADA or DA is basically dead). So, a lot of things do not have to be changed at once. You could just update and improve things you have already! That's how academies survive at the end of the day. You add something new to something old and good.
If you need any help or suggestion, feel free to ask me. I'm more than willing to help. While I'm not a coder or GFX-er like bote is, I know how to run academy. Good luck!
Sorry, bote, but I haven't read whole of your review because:
1.) Too lazy to do so
2.) Don't have time to do so
However, I've read all the replies. Well, first, I'll try to let you know what I do not like on MADA.
Before I start, though, for those who do not know me (probably nobody knows me here), I am Lux, and I was Administrator at Gladiator Duel Academy for almost all of it's time (I was the Head Admin last few months too) and I was an Assistant on the Duel Academy for like 7-8 months.
The first thing that I don't like is...that chatbox. I just really dislike the version with avatars in it, and I'm pretty sure that option can be removed in the Administrator Panel. I like avatars, I consider them to be something unique for every member, but it looks somewhat "messy" to me. But really, if I am the only one who actually dislikes that, then keep it as it is.
What I see is that bote compares you a lot to DA. And that's a reasonable comparasion because DA is the biggest, the best and the largest Yugioh Academy up to date. Just by creating an academy you are basically copying DA. But, of course, there can be many cheeks things that DA doesn't have.
What I would love to see changed is user's profile field. It looks messy so if you could "clean that up" it would look a lot better. Plus it'd be nice if you find some cheeky rank images, just for the forum look.
And I agree with Bote about a lot of banners, the more you have them, the longer is forum's loading time. So a head banner + maybe a banners for a dorms would be just enough.
One more thing, get rid of the glows. They are nice but the forum would look better without it.
Now, don't get me wrong, please. You've been cruising apart for 2 long years as I have heard (well, of course you are 2nd in forumotion as of now because every other academy besides MADA or DA is basically dead). So, a lot of things do not have to be changed at once. You could just update and improve things you have already! That's how academies survive at the end of the day. You add something new to something old and good.
If you need any help or suggestion, feel free to ask me. I'm more than willing to help. While I'm not a coder or GFX-er like bote is, I know how to run academy. Good luck!
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I personally don't see the need for many changes, as literally nobody has any issues with loading times, so getting rid of the glows and the main chatbox aren't really necissary, as glows are obvious indicators of a staff position, and many people(Including myself) prefer to use the main chatbox rather than the pop-up one.
"Fun" IS what MADA is. It isn't meant to be professional. MADA doesn't need people reviewing it and telling it that it needs to be something that it is not. Also, we tend to open welcome members with open arms and let them be part of the community. This being said, criticizing this place like it's an essay isn't the best way to fit in with us. Just sayin'.
"Fun" IS what MADA is. It isn't meant to be professional. MADA doesn't need people reviewing it and telling it that it needs to be something that it is not. Also, we tend to open welcome members with open arms and let them be part of the community. This being said, criticizing this place like it's an essay isn't the best way to fit in with us. Just sayin'.
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Didn't expect Lux to post here. Umm...That makes things awkward...You want someone asking for things to change, look at Lux for an example.
B. There are people who can buy glows no to mention users who are not staff that have glows.
C. Have you tested having a pop-up chatbox without the main chatbox on the main page?
B. a27 and Stardog have both appreciated the fact that I wrote this. Stardog even said himself that he wants to be critiqued.
C. Even if you are here to have fun, I'm not telling MADA it should be this or should be that. I am simply saying things it can do better.
D. The only person that I've seen hostility about in public from sofar is you. If you don't appreciate the fact that I write reviews, don't read my reviews.
E. If anything does come out from my review, you'll be having MORE fun.
A. Just because no one has a problem with it doesn't mean that you should just ignore something that could be a problem.Karma Akabane wrote:I personally don't see the need for many changes, as literally nobody has any issues with loading times, so getting rid of the glows and the main chatbox aren't really necissary, as glows are obvious indicators of a staff position, and many people(Including myself) prefer to use the main chatbox rather than the pop-up one.
B. There are people who can buy glows no to mention users who are not staff that have glows.
C. Have you tested having a pop-up chatbox without the main chatbox on the main page?
A. You can be professional and have fun. Knowing how to be professional and have fun is important, as if you are completely professional but not having fun, you shouldn't be doing what you are doing, and if you are having fun but not completely professional, it makes you look bad.Karma Akabane wrote:"Fun" IS what MADA is. It isn't meant to be professional. MADA doesn't need people reviewing it and telling it that it needs to be something that it is not. Also, we tend to open welcome members with open arms and let them be part of the community. This being said, criticizing this place like it's an essay isn't the best way to fit in with us. Just sayin'.
B. a27 and Stardog have both appreciated the fact that I wrote this. Stardog even said himself that he wants to be critiqued.
C. Even if you are here to have fun, I'm not telling MADA it should be this or should be that. I am simply saying things it can do better.
D. The only person that I've seen hostility about in public from sofar is you. If you don't appreciate the fact that I write reviews, don't read my reviews.
E. If anything does come out from my review, you'll be having MORE fun.
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We actually DID try having the pop-up chat only for a bit. Was not well liked.
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Good to know, thanks for the tad bit of information. In which case, keep the chatbox. I was misinformed about it increasing loading times, and I'm probably going to believe Legion (the guy who said it doesn't increase loading times), because he knows more about forumotion then I do.Oracle wrote:We actually DID try having the pop-up chat only for a bit. Was not well liked.
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Lux0402 wrote:One more thing, get rid of the glows. They are nice but the forum would look better without it.
Why do you think they should get rid of the glows? How would the forum look better without them? This is what you call Non informative right here as it says nothing as to why they should do it and how it would look BETTER without it.
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Honestly we hang out in MADA for fun, why be so serious about it if there isn't a big problem?
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I as I said in a earlier post, I'm greedy for a dream which will probably never happen. Actually, you could probably say this is even a greedier dream: I want to see to it that academys will never die.
Will it happen? No. They die all the time. But in a since it's sorta responsibility to me. If a new one starts up, eventually I'll come across it and I'll do the same thing I did here for there. I did the same thing for CSA. In a since, it's moreso has to do with me. Ywall can interpret this however you see fit. Discard it, appreciate it. I just need to do things that are within my skill sets to make sure I lead the horse to water. If the horse drinks the water, that's something else.
Also, I don't remember who said it, but someone said I was powerhungry. And I want to add this to that statement when I responded to it: I already have power. What is my power? Information. Information is power.
Will it happen? No. They die all the time. But in a since it's sorta responsibility to me. If a new one starts up, eventually I'll come across it and I'll do the same thing I did here for there. I did the same thing for CSA. In a since, it's moreso has to do with me. Ywall can interpret this however you see fit. Discard it, appreciate it. I just need to do things that are within my skill sets to make sure I lead the horse to water. If the horse drinks the water, that's something else.
Also, I don't remember who said it, but someone said I was powerhungry. And I want to add this to that statement when I responded to it: I already have power. What is my power? Information. Information is power.
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Yukio Okumura wrote:Lux0402 wrote:One more thing, get rid of the glows. They are nice but the forum would look better without it.
Why do you think they should get rid of the glows? How would the forum look better without them? This is what you call Non informative right here as it says nothing as to why they should do it and how it would look BETTER without it.
How would it look better? Simply! Forum looks messy and in some hand unprofessional with it. I am a bit stupid, but I need a couple of moments to spot a difference between Moderators and Administrators. I love glows, but if you want to keep it, you could make them a special thing, a thing hard to obtain. I mean, if you guys love them so much, then keep them. I don't like pointing out to what you need to do and what you should get rid of, I'm just trying to show you another possibilities and options. As I said, what makes a good academy better is to add something new to something old and making it work!
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Lux, you're digging a grave for yourself. We're friends and all, but good luck digging yourself out.
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Lux0402 wrote:Yukio Okumura wrote:Lux0402 wrote:One more thing, get rid of the glows. They are nice but the forum would look better without it.
Why do you think they should get rid of the glows? How would the forum look better without them? This is what you call Non informative right here as it says nothing as to why they should do it and how it would look BETTER without it.
How would it look better? Simply! Forum looks messy and in some hand unprofessional with it. I am a bit stupid, but I need a couple of moments to spot a difference between Moderators and Administrators. I love glows, but if you want to keep it, you could make them a special thing, a thing hard to obtain. I mean, if you guys love them so much, then keep them. I don't like pointing out to what you need to do and what you should get rid of, I'm just trying to show you another possibilities and options. As I said, what makes a good academy better is to add something new to something old and making it work!
Hold on. Are you really fucking serious right now? REALLY? you can't tell the difference between admins and mods? The colors go as followed Admins = Black color and Mods = White color and as it is now this site is nothing but unprofessional and thats why it so fun to be on this site. Permanent glows are for the staff only. But members can buy them from the shop for a limited time but nobody usually does it that often.
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Not really caring about the glow debate because that's Lux's fight to battle, are you implying that if any academy were to have a professional environment it would not be fun? If so, define Professional for me (or what you think professionalism is), I think we have different views on what that may be.Yukio Okumura wrote:as it is now this site is nothing but unprofessional and thats why it so fun to be on this site.
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Well, whatever. I was just trying to help, but do w/e you want, as I said, I was just showing more possibilities and options.
As for glows, I don't think they are needed on forum, especially for staff.
Good luck, though, hope to see this forum grow.
As for glows, I don't think they are needed on forum, especially for staff.
Good luck, though, hope to see this forum grow.
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Yuuki Yuna wrote:Not really caring about the glow debate because that's Lux's fight to battle, are you implying that if any academy were to have a professional environment it would not be fun? If so, define Professional for me (or what you think professionalism is), I think we have different views on what that may be.Yukio Okumura wrote:as it is now this site is nothing but unprofessional and thats why it so fun to be on this site.
Being Professional is making sure you are always on top of the rules and enforcing them and making sure there are zero Loopholes. Being professional also means to have staff that do their duty to enforce the rules. Being Professional also means to have really active staff on a forum and not go inactive for more then a week.
Is this what you define as being professional cause it sure is how i define it.
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