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Post by Earth Guardian (Zolfo) Wed Oct 12, 2016 1:53 pm

just like the others... i have this one about done, But i feel like its missing one or two tweaks.
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Monsters 22
Metalfoes Volflame x2
Qliphort Monolith x1
Qliphort Scout x1
Metalfoes Goldriver x3
Metalfoes Silverd x3
Metalfoes Steeleren x1
Mejespecter Unicorn - Kirin x1
Dinomist Spinos x1
Dinomist Rex x2
Dinomist Pteran x3
Dinomist Stegosaur x1
Archfiend Eccentrick x1
Ghost Ogre & Snow Rabbit x2

Spells 9
Painful Decision x1
Raigeki x1
Metalfoes Fusion x1
Summoner's Art x2
Twin Twister x1
Dinomist Charge x3

Traps 9
Metalfoes Counter x3
Dinomist Rush x2
Vanity's Emptiness x1
Solemn Strike x2
Solemn Warning x1

Extra Deck 15
Metalfoes Orihulk x1
Metalfoes Mythriel x2
Odd-Eyes Meteorburst Dragon x1
Clear Wing Synchro Dragon x1
Cyber Dragon Infinity x1
Wind-up Arsenal Zenmaioh x1
Tiras, Keeper of Genesis x1
Number s39: Utopia the Lightning x1
Number 61: Volcasaurus x1
Cyber Dragon Nova x1
Number s39: Utopia Prime x1
Number 39: Utopia x1
Castel, the Skyblaster Musketeer x1
The Phantom Knights of Break Sword x1


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Post by Kiernan Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:10 pm

You don't really need Metalfoes Combination. Too many Metalfoes S/T will be cloggy. 2-3 counter and 1 fusion is the generally accepted ratio. Especially since you're not running the full engine.
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Post by Khina Bree Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:16 pm

Why so many Mirror Forces?
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Post by Kiernan Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:25 pm

Better question: Why no Blazing Mirror Force? >:

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Post by Khina Bree Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:46 pm

Or OG Mirror Force!

Needs more Mirror Forces mate, run 'em all!"
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Post by Earth Guardian (Zolfo) Wed Oct 12, 2016 4:03 pm

*MODIFIED* Replaced Drowning Mirror Force and Metalfoes Combination with Blazing Mirror Force Bottomless Trap Hole and Void Trap Hole. sorry guys, i prefer the trap hole family over the mirror force family. Also, i'd figure if i do this... it'd balance my backrow set up more.
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Post by Kiernan Wed Oct 12, 2016 4:28 pm

Void Trap Hole isn't that good anymore. Floodgate Trap Hole is pretty good, though. Bottomless is a bit of a toss-up. We were also only joking about the mirror forces. They're slow and don't do a whole lot for the deck.
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Post by Earth Guardian (Zolfo) Wed Oct 12, 2016 4:52 pm

Kiernan wrote:Void Trap Hole isn't that good anymore. Floodgate Trap Hole is pretty good, though. Bottomless is a bit of a toss-up. We were also only joking about the mirror forces. They're slow and don't do a whole lot for the deck.

ok, question... should i throw a small engine in, if so could you list some? keep in mind, i haven't played 3 weeks after the start of last format. so i missed a lot of good cards when they came out (like nirvana)
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Post by Kiernan Wed Oct 12, 2016 5:11 pm

The engine I'd suggest using is the Qliphort engine. It opens up Infinity plays as well as expanding your chances of getting a rank 5 off without needing much setup. Someone already touched on the idea when you brought up the topic of Metalfoes Dinomist in chat I believe.

The Qli mini-engine typically consists of:


  • 1x Qliphort Scout
  • 1x Qliphort Monolith
  • 2-3x Summoner's Art (Which can also be used to search the level 7 Metalfoes, not just Scout.)
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Post by Earth Guardian (Zolfo) Wed Oct 12, 2016 5:35 pm

you sure that'll work out, i mean they both say you can only SS qlis
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Post by Kiernan Wed Oct 12, 2016 5:49 pm

That's what the Metalfoes engine is for. You pop Scout after you use it, then you special Scout from extra, Mono from hand.
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Post by Earth Guardian (Zolfo) Wed Oct 12, 2016 6:24 pm

ooooh, ok i wasn't thinking about using them like that xD
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Post by Earth Guardian (Zolfo) Wed Oct 12, 2016 6:39 pm

*Modified* swapped Void Trap hole, Bottomless Trap Hole Blazing Mirror Force, Quaking Mirror Force, Number s39: Utopia Prime and Abyss Dwellar for Qliphort Monolith, Qliphort Scout, 2 Summoner's Art, Wind-Up Arsenal Zenmaioh and Tiras, Keeper of Genesis.
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Post by Kiernan Wed Oct 12, 2016 8:18 pm

Could you provide an updated screenshot of the decklist?
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Post by Earth Guardian (Zolfo) Wed Oct 12, 2016 8:42 pm

already done, under "Newer version .2: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] "
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Post by Kiernan Wed Oct 12, 2016 9:04 pm

Ah okay, missed that.

Personally, I'd choose between Clear Wing and Black Rose Moonlight as their effects essentially are filling the same slot, punishing the opponent for using high-level monsters. I'd go for Meteor or Yazi instead of one of those two.
Clear Wing and Meteor would be my recommendation, but it's up to you (you don't really have to drop either card, but I don't really see a situation in which you would need both)

Additionally, I don't particularly like any of the mirror forces this format except for Quaking. (Well and Drowning, but it performs best in niche decks)

I'd add a Painful Decision in its place to help add consistency. Also, would drop a Pteran and add another Steelren. I'm also a bit confused as to why you are running 3 Rex and no Stego. Stego can be a godsend vs. decks that prevent targeting. It's a 1-of imo. If nothing else, at least stick it in side.

Parting question: How often do you end up going into Nirvana?
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Post by Earth Guardian (Zolfo) Thu Oct 13, 2016 6:06 am

Nirvana was a bad choice, i just realized it requires non-tuner synchros. Since i only have two tuners.... I'll find something to replace it.
As for stego, i never really thought about using it. Because it's level four, and i felt i need more level 5s for infinity. Since i have the qlis, i'll give it a shot.
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Post by Earth Guardian (Zolfo) Thu Oct 13, 2016 6:17 am

*Modified* swapped 1 Dinomist Rex, Storming Mirror Force, Nirvana High Paladin and Black Rose Moonlight Dragon for Dinomist Stegosaur, Painful Decision, Number s39: Utopia Prime, and Odd-Eyes Meteorburst Dragon
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