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Smash 4 Tier List [1.1.3]

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Post by Flint Thu Mar 03, 2016 9:59 pm

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This is an outdated tier list. Being that 1.1.4 is the current version of that game we are playing and this tier list is missing 2 character being Bayonetta and Corrin. Regardless, I did still want to document the first Smash 4 tier list to be made. I will update if there is a tier list for 1.1.4 when/if it's posted.

1. Sheik
2. Zero Suit Samus (ZSS)
3. Rosaluma
4. Ryu
5. Pikachu
6. Sonic
7. Fox
8. Mario
9. Diddy Kong
10. Meta Knight
11. Villager
12. Cloud
13. Ness
14. Captain Falcon
15. Yoshi
16. Luigi
17. Dark Pit
18. Pit
19. Peach
20. ROB
21. Wario
22. Toon Link
23. Lucario
24. Olimar
25. Greninja
26. Ike
27. DK
28. Megaman
29. Pac-Man
30. Bowser
31. Robin
32. Roy
33. Kirby
34. Bowser Jr.
35. Mr. Game & Watch
36. Lucas
37. Mewtwo
38. Falco
39. Wii Fit Trainer
40. Shulk
41. Marth
42. Link
43. Duck Hunt
44. Little Mac
45. Dr. Mario
46. King DeDeDe
47. Lucina
48. Mii Brawler
49. Charizard
50. Palutena
51. Samus
52. Mii Gunner
53. Mii Swordsman
54. Ganon
55. Jigglypuff
56. Zelda
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Post by Khina Bree Fri Mar 04, 2016 3:27 am

So...is this like ranking the combatants from 1 to 56?
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Post by mimgrim Fri Mar 04, 2016 9:04 am

Basically, sketch.
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Post by Khina Bree Fri Mar 04, 2016 10:42 am

So that means Zelda is the worst of the worst?
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Post by Flint Fri Mar 04, 2016 10:56 am

Tier lists matter in the scenario that both players are of equal skill level and are both at least experienced in some form, and even then it isn't always super clear cut since there is mental game to take into account. In the casual level of play, it wouldn't matter too much. Although faults in the characters become much more noticeable and exploitable in the higher levels of play. I wouldn't be able to give a confident answer with your question since the metagame will never be stable because of patches which involve buffs and nerfs. Smash 64, Melee and Brawl had years to develop their metagame since there is just one version. This was done in a matter of weeks so a couple of the mid-tier and low-tier can be debatable.

As far as myself, I do consider Zelda to be the worst mainly from low mobility, bad neutral game, and close to non-existent combo game. It might change in the future since Nintendo is always buffing lower tier characters, including Zelda. As far as myself goes, I'd answer yes although I'd say she can hold her own against super heavyweights like DeDeDe.
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Post by Stardog Fri Mar 04, 2016 11:50 am

I'm surprised to see Captain be placed as highly as he is, although it might be from popularity of the character merged with a lot of advantages.

As far what I'm perplexed on, I'm perplexed to see Kirby placed in-between mid tier and low tier, I would have thought for sure Kirby would be cemented as a better mid tier, being placed near Lucario and Toon Link.
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Post by mimgrim Fri Mar 04, 2016 9:56 pm

Linty wrote:Tier lists matter in the scenario that both players are of equal skill level and are both at least experienced in some form, and even then it isn't always super clear cut since there is mental game to take into account. In the casual level of play, it wouldn't matter too much. Although faults in the characters become much more noticeable and exploitable in the higher levels of play. I wouldn't be able to give a confident answer with your question since the metagame will never be stable because of patches which involve buffs and nerfs. Smash 64, Melee and Brawl had years to develop their metagame since there is just one version. This was done in a matter of weeks so a couple of the mid-tier and low-tier can be debatable.

As far as myself, I do consider Zelda to be the worst mainly from low mobility, bad neutral game, and close to non-existent combo game. It might change in the future since Nintendo is always buffing lower tier characters, including Zelda. As far as myself goes, I'd answer yes although I'd say she can hold her own against super heavyweights like DeDeDe.

To add onto this, competitive play is primarily 1v1 (while 2v2, aka teams, does exist it is much more low key and isn't as big/popular as 1v1 is) which is what this list is based off of. So while Zelda is horrible in 1v1 competitive play, that doesn't mean she is bad in teams or in any other game mode (though other game modes, besides teams, like FFAs, aren't played in competitive play). Some characters are built more around FFAs (Zeda, many of the fatties [DDD, Ganondorf, Bowser, ect...]), more around singles (Sheik, ZSS, Sonic as some examples), and some around teams (Cloud comes to mind, Lucas or Ness or GnW paired with someone whose projectile they can absorb).
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Post by Flint Fri Mar 04, 2016 10:14 pm

Not-relevant comment; I would love to see a tier list for doubles, and maybe even make one of my own. Although it would be much easier to start off in Smash 64 since there is the least amount of roster combinations.
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Post by Zaio Volnutt Fri Mar 04, 2016 10:19 pm

i kinda find it humorous that there is 1 character that is both the number 1 and the lowest in the tier list (Zelda of course Razz)
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Post by Prince Kamui Fri Mar 04, 2016 10:56 pm

RIP. All of my mains lie in tiers in or under E...
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